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TechGuy 03-08-2009 06:54 PM

Planting Trees from seeds. Advice
 
I hate a clutch of red maple seeds and Texas Lemon seeds (these are awesome!).

The lemon seeds are from a lemon tree that was planted as seed, so it is a natural lemon tree, not a hybrid.

The maple seeds are fresh off a drummond red maple tree in my backyard.

They have been naturally dried, and I am ready to try to sprout them.

I have bought a small plastic sprout starter that has little peat pellets. After they sprout, plan to move to small pots with new potting soil, then will move to small garden frame.

Anyone started maples or fruit trees from seeds?

GreenSpirit 03-08-2009 07:39 PM

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Maples are generally started from seed so you should have no problem there.

Citrus seedlings are funnier and have some cross-pollination issues and complicated genetic quirks including nucellar sprouting.
The seeds are definitely worth planting, though.
Most well-grown citrus seedlings will first bear fruit after only a few years in a sunny warm climate.
Good luck.

CrufflerJJ 03-08-2009 08:40 PM

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I get zillions of "volunteer" Maple seedlings in my yard & gutters every year. They certainly seem to WANT to sprout.

2cents 03-09-2009 04:02 PM

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As far as I know, the natural lemon trees are full of thorns and the lemons are full of seeds and very bitter, remember the old song.

I guess you could still make lemonade.

Lemon trees are used for root stock to graph other citrus trees onto, like satsuma, orange and grapefruit.

That's because lemon trees are hardier than the other citrus trees.

You probably know that citrus won't survive freezes unless protected, although natural lemons are hardier to freezes.

Citrus is is definitely not a northern tree.

CrufflerJJ 03-09-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cents (Post 1615742)
As far as I know, the natural lemon trees are full of thorns and the lemons are full of seeds and very bitter, remember the old song.

Ahh, yes. Peter, Paul & Mary. Pretty song, by the way.

TechGuy 03-09-2009 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cents (Post 1615742)
As far as I know, the natural lemon trees are full of thorns and the lemons are full of seeds and very bitter, remember the old song.

I guess you could still make lemonade.

Lemon trees are used for root stock to graph other citrus trees onto, like satsuma, orange and grapefruit.

That's because lemon trees are hardier than the other citrus trees.

You probably know that citrus won't survive freezes unless protected, although natural lemons are hardier to freezes.

Citrus is is definitely not a northern tree.

I live west of Houston, so deep freezes are not much of a problem. Hard freeze this year was the water in the dog bowl had a thin layer of ice in it.

Thorns are ok. I have plenty of space for it. I also have a lemon drop tree that gives VERY sweet fruit.. these are mainly for a reliable source of C.

MagpieFairy 03-09-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1614556)
I get zillions of "volunteer" Maple seedlings in my yard & gutters every year. They certainly seem to WANT to sprout.

lol, yeah I was going to say, "Just throw your seeds somewhere yo don't want them to grow."

TechGuy 03-09-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MagpieFairy (Post 1616360)
lol, yeah I was going to say, "Just throw your seeds somewhere yo don't want them to grow."

I wish it was that easy! We have a 'tree deficit' on the property here. Unfortunately, the black clay is so hard it takes a real concerted effort to grow anything.

Squirrel Bait 03-09-2009 09:34 PM

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Hi Tech Guy,

Maple seeds are "live" seeds and can't be allowed to dry out. From the time they fall until they sprout they must be kept moist. Sorry.

I know nothing about lemon seeds though.

s

TechGuy 03-09-2009 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1616389)
Hi Tech Guy,

Maple seeds are "live" seeds and can't be allowed to dry out. From the time they fall until they sprout they must be kept moist. Sorry.

I know nothing about lemon seeds though.

s

Thats ok, there are still some on the tree... Time to go pickin...

latemetal 03-09-2009 09:55 PM

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I'm now wondering about the "Johnny Appleseed" stories I read as a kid. What prompted him to do that? Some Depession stories or what?

Squirrel Bait 03-10-2009 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by latemetal (Post 1616436)
I'm now wondering about the "Johnny Appleseed" stories I read as a kid. What prompted him to do that? Some Depession stories or what?

It might have simply been a way to roam around and get consistant warm meals.

s

latemetal 03-10-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1617691)
It might have simply been a way to roam around and get consistant warm meals.

s

I get the feeling there is more to the story than what we have been told, much like "The Wizard of Oz", I'll look it up.:bear_rolleyes:

GreenSpirit 03-10-2009 11:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1616389)
Hi Tech Guy,

Maple seeds are "live" seeds and can't be allowed to dry out. From the time they fall until they sprout they must be kept moist. Sorry.

I know nothing about lemon seeds though.

s

Lemon seeds, like other citrus seeds, are also short-lived if allowed to dry.
They're best kept undried or in the fruit till just before sowing.

thrifty_bob 03-11-2009 05:28 PM

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Do you get a lot of maple syrup from the red maples?

TechGuy 03-11-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thrifty_bob (Post 1619991)
Do you get a lot of maple syrup from the red maples?

Nope. Ornamental only.

Maple syrup usually comes from sugar maples.

bob681 03-11-2009 08:47 PM

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For the lemon seeds if they bear fruit at all it will take 10 to 12 years. Go to Lowes an buy a Myers Lemon (around $20) you will have fruit almost year round. I live near you and have 2 Meyers in my backyard 50 or more lemons on each right now.

GreenSpirit 03-11-2009 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bob681 (Post 1620363)
For the lemon seeds if they bear fruit at all it will take 10 to 12 years. Go to Lowes an buy a Myers Lemon (around $20) you will have fruit almost year round. I live near you and have 2 Meyers in my backyard 50 or more lemons on each right now.

Meyer lemons are not true lemons but probably a very old lemon x mandarin cross.

They're popular in Texas, so it indeed may be your Texas lemon. They're productive and smallish and make great dooryard fruit trees in warm areas.


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